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>If someone wants extraordinary hours they need to be providing extraordinary compensation.

That's a naive approach. If you're in a place where people are fanatically devoted to the mission, it's a benefit in it of itself.

First you'll learn a lot. Residency is often grueling in terms of hours. The payout is much later as you learn more.

Also you're surrounded by very smart hard working people. Every high achiever I know hates working with low achievers or people who are lazy, incompetent or don't care. This is selection. So you learn a lot, in a very intense way, you'll learn a lot from smart people in a very short period of time.

But the most important thing I learned is that there is a huge universe of knowledge you can't learn from books or derive logically. You would learn more doing 996 following around a high performer over a short period of time than you would from years of school.

Some people like doing hard things. People do Ironmans and marathons, they train months for them and what do they get in return? Some endurance and strength that will dissipate within months of the end.

Finally it depends on your stage in life. If you're coming out of college, I would definitely recommend doing the most challenging thing you can find in your area of interest. If you have a family and kids, maybe pull back a bit.



Doing something hard or challenging has nothing to do with working 72hrs a week


tl;dr: it's just ageism in disguise. Anyone in their 30s need not apply.


Yeah, you're right. I think every job should be available to every person regardless of the things required from the job, personal circumstance, skillset or anything else.

If some job requires more than strictly 9-5 and cannot be done by a paraplegic, visually impaired, neurodivergent individual, the job should just cease to exist, lest we be called some kind of 'ist'.


It's an office job. There is no requirement. Working extreme hours is a betrayal of your fellow workers with families who are put in the impossible position of having to choose between competing against such people or spending time with their family.

It's also a betrayal of your future self, because maybe you don't have a partner or a family now, but later if you do you will be in the same position as your coworkers. Workers' rights are for everybody, even if they're not for everybody right now.


This. Spot on. If you are putting in more hours than you have signed up for you are doing disservice to fellow collegues. And for what, just to make some one rich. If you must go do side projects, create company and be the entrepreneur.


> Working extreme hours is a betrayal of your fellow workers with families who are put in the impossible position of having to choose between competing against such people or spending time with their family.

Wow, this is a cartoon level villain. You're working too hard making us look bad! Didn't know there were people that actually thought like this.

Perversion of egalitarianism. Reduce everyone to the lowest common denominator as not to allow for any differences in people. Basically remove free will. Truly dystopian stuff.


> You're working too hard making us look bad!

ofcourse it is. You are working for the time you are not getting paid for dude




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