Stadia failed too… but was that just google pulling the plug, or the whole concept that doesn’t make sense?

Personally I’ve tried stadia and ps now, and they both have noticeable artifacting, lower resolution, and input latency, on a 1 gig symmetrical fiber connection. The only streaming that’s remotely acceptable as a gamer is steam in-home streaming over a hardwired connection.

I think Stadia failed because of a combo of reasons. Main 2 being: 1) Google. 2) Their pricing model made no sense.

Geforce NOW (NVIDIA's Stadia) works a lot better IMO, and doesn't require you go through them to acquire games. It lets you stream games you already have access to on say Steam or where ever.

You probably need some post-rendering to speed things up. And send the data as entity state changes. Like hot and sexy X11 done since I was born.

The render, compress, send over IP, decompress pipeline will just always feel laggy and slow.

I agree with the idea, but it may depend on how the X11 application was written.

My experience with X11 over a network (across a city, geographically and distance-wise) was very poor. Slow updates, just extreme latency in doing anything. Not impossible to use, but definitely unusable by any reasonable metric. We're talking dozens of seconds for most GUI interactions.

I eventually piped it through RDP (mRDP, iirc), which itself was piped through a VPN. This vastly improved performance and made it so that I didn't have to be physically present at my workstation. Just as well, since it was during the early covid timeframe.

Ye. I don't think X11 servers were designed initially for anything but very local network connections. Maybe your packages were reordered or something which X11 maybe could not handle very well. Otherwise I don't understand how piping would help.

PG endorsing a technology is a sure way to know that it has no future.

Yeah it's almost like people are collectively waking up to the fact that VCs are not actually that smart because their whole business model is predicated on being wrong 90+% of the time (which to be fair they've been explicitly saying forever). Now they're connecting the dots and realizing that the other 10% are just luck (and a well timed bull market).

broken clock is right twice a day. being skeptical on 100% of startups makes you right 90% of the time but doesnt by itself prove you have good judgment yet. you also need to know how to be nonconsensus and optimistic.